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     <title>Re:  ECHO Protocol</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0009.html</link>
     <author>tdonahue@NOSPAMvonsystems.com (Tim Donahue)</author>
     <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:08:49 -0400</pubDate>
     <description>Quoting peng liu &lt;cleverpigboyatgmail&#46;com&gt;: &gt; OK. This is the tricky part since ICMP is built basd on IP protocol and it &gt; works on thesame layer as TCP&#47;UDP. Then why my local services file contains: &gt; &gt; echo 7&#47;tcp &gt; echo 7&#47;udp ...</description>
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     <title>Scheduling PIX commands</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0008.html</link>
     <author>Ian.Rarity@NOSPAMespc.com (Ian Rarity)</author>
     <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:22:49 +0100</pubDate>
     <description>Hi all, We've just made some changes to our PIX config, and we need to clear the xlates to make the changes fully live. The only problem with this is that we also have another system that will react badly (to put it ...</description>
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     <title>FW:  ECHO Protocol</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0007.html</link>
     <author>dhurst@NOSPAMlisletech.com (David Hurst)</author>
     <pubDate>Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:13:13 -0500</pubDate>
     <description>The &quot;echo&quot; service referred to in the local services file is an old Unix service typically implemented directly in inetd.  It listens on port 7 and echos back any data sent to it.  Typically, the echo service should be ...</description>
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     <title>Re:  ECHO Protocol</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0006.html</link>
     <author>securescorp@NOSPAMgmail.com (Secure Scorp)</author>
     <pubDate>Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:53:44 +0530</pubDate>
     <description>I agree with Paul, no real substitute for actual verification ! however this would be ICMP Code 0 Type 8 packet. Thanks, Aditya Govind Mukadam On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Paul D. Robertson &lt;paulatcompuwar&#46;net&gt; wrote: &gt; On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, peng liu wrote: ...</description>
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     <title>Re:  ECHO Protocol</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0005.html</link>
     <author>roman@NOSPAMjct.ac.il (Haim [Howard] Roman)</author>
     <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:21:50 +0300</pubDate>
     <description>In ICMP terminology, &quot;echo&quot; is what we normally call &quot;ping&quot;. So &quot;uses ECHO protocol&quot; might just be another way of saying that it uses ICMP. See &amp; search for &quot;Echo Request&quot; &amp; &quot;Echo Reply&quot;. Haim (Howard) Roman Computer Center, Jerusalem College of Technology romanatjct&#46;ac.il ...</description>
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     <title>Re:  need opinion of security experts on network design</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0004.html</link>
     <author>hausen@NOSPAMpunkt.de (Patrick M. Hausen)</author>
     <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:38:41 +0200</pubDate>
     <description>Hello, Sorry for answering myself, but this needs to be corrected: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 06:49:17PM 0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: &gt; If you can guarantee that each floor will stay a separate collision ...</description>
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     <title>Re:  Firewall Sizing?</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0003.html</link>
     <author>hausen@NOSPAMpunkt.de (Patrick M. Hausen)</author>
     <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:49:53 +0200</pubDate>
     <description>Hello, On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 06:58:48PM 0100, Paul Hutchings wrote: &gt; In our case I suspect we're a bit of an oddity, as we have a fat internet &gt; pipe and a few hundred users, but not all have full internet access and ...</description>
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     <title>Re:  Firewall Sizing?</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0002.html</link>
     <author>firewallwizards@NOSPAMkajtek.org (Marcin Antkiewicz)</author>
     <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:02:56 -0500</pubDate>
     <description>On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Paul Hutchings &lt;PAULatspamcop&#46;net&gt; wrote: &gt; How do you go about sizing a firewall? &gt; Depends on what work the firewall will do - VPN and protocol inspection will take CPU, packet filtering not so much. ...</description>
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     <title>Re:  ECHO Protocol</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0001.html</link>
     <author>cleverpigboy@NOSPAMgmail.com (peng liu)</author>
     <pubDate>Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:12:09 +0800</pubDate>
     <description>OK. This is the tricky part since ICMP is built basd on IP protocol and it works on thesame layer as TCP&#47;UDP. Then why my local services file contains: echo 7&#47;tcp echo 7&#47;udp So the echo here is different than the Echo, Echo-reply protocol we are talking here? ...</description>
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     <title>Re:  Firewall Sizing?</title>
     <link>http://www.seclists.org/lists/firewall-wizards/2008/Jul/0000.html</link>
     <author>darden@NOSPAMarmc.org (Darden, Patrick S.)</author>
     <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:12:20 -0400</pubDate>
     <description>Paul, This is an incredibly complex question, that I don't think has an easy answer. Major factors (in *generally* desdending order of importance): ...</description>
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